{XG} Extreme Gaming Clan

{XG} Clan => Servers => Report a Rule Breaker => Topic started by: LOLOx on 20 October 2013, 01:03:22

Title: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: LOLOx on 20 October 2013, 01:03:22
Hello my fellow Halo lovers, this is more of an informative post than an actual complain.

This last Month i've noticed an odd number of "new" members in the servers, especially in the Custom maps servers. Before you ask! I DONT KNOW THE ACTUAL NAMES.
I dont know how many new members we got but i'm 100% certain that a lot of the ones i've seen are fake members.

The one i really wanna know about is this guy.
(http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s526/FelixTMS/haloce-20131012-185535_zps60e0a99e.png)
This so called "{XG}§?§??" was in the extincion server when i joined, and i immediatly noticed him and asked him if he was a new member... he did not speak any english so i used my mother tongue to ask him or "preguntarle" :D long story short he didnt reply but then  this "Themplarius" guy (who used to play with Wu wu) started to ask assasin who was the leader of XG (in spanish) and he answered "Tauroxx is". We were both like O_e, WHO??? then when we told him he wasn't he started texting me i was a fake XG member and that he was going to report me to his leader. At that point i left because i couldn't do anything to get him out of the server.

Today i caught this guy in the Classic server. I didnt have Xfire ON so i had to improvise.   "{XG}ZIPI"
(http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s526/FelixTMS/P2280070_zps41978125.jpg)
I assumed he was, IS!, a fake member because he was noobtubing EVERYONE with the fuel rod gun and the rocket launcher. And if he is a legitimate member then some one is gonna have to have a serious talk with him

Anyway, thank you for taking your time reading this long sh*t but i think its a very important problem we're having.
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: {XG}Tony117 on 20 October 2013, 02:51:48
Yeah he is a fake he joins our servers alot with our tags. people always say he is breaking the rules also.
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: csb26 on 20 October 2013, 05:42:34
This Guy " "{XG}§?§??" is a sucking bit** and foker , he will never learn from his mistake, I'll tell tell you what happened to him....
One day he joined XG zombie server when i was there with head and he got banned for aimbotting, i caught him one more day in XG zombi server and he again got banned for aimbotting, and that sucker again got banned for aimbotting 2 weeks ago in XG Gultch sniper......

So basically he is ruining {XG} reputation
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: {XG} ¬ GɵĐ ᴸᴱᴳᴱᴻᴰ on 20 October 2013, 07:54:29
If i became Admin on other servers (IF) i will ban these motherfuckers cause no one can ruin our reputation with these bullshits
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: jorisdemiraj on 20 October 2013, 09:28:17
{XG}ASSASSIN was seen in every xg servers, even on PC servers. I have reported  him once but not sure what happened. Anyway what matters the most here is that there are people recruiting players in xg like they are the leader or an admin. Players like {XG}YISUS and {XG}Alias (were fake members but not anymore after i spoke with them) said that there are guys recruiting on both PC and CE. It might be that the guy assassin is talking about  is the same guy recruiting in all our servers , or it might be more then just one guy since we dealt with a fake recruiter/"admin" (420prodigy).
And some players just join to intimidate their opponent, show off or to keep a player within the rules of the servers. In all the cases i think they need to be informed about the rule they are breaking , and then if they persist have GOD kick their asses.
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: {XG} ¬ GɵĐ ᴸᴱᴳᴱᴻᴰ on 20 October 2013, 15:02:21
and then if they persist have GOD kick their asses.

(http://t.qkme.me/3rtqsu.jpg)
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: LOLOx on 20 October 2013, 15:56:06
{XG}ASSASSIN was seen in every xg servers, even on PC servers. I have reported  him once but not sure what happened. Anyway what matters the most here is that there are people recruiting players in xg like they are the leader or an admin. Players like {XG}YISUS and {XG}Alias (were fake members but not anymore after i spoke with them) said that there are guys recruiting on both PC and CE. It might be that the guy assassin is talking about  is the same guy recruiting in all our servers , or it might be more then just one guy since we dealt with a fake recruiter/"admin" (420prodigy).
And some players just join to intimidate their opponent, show off or to keep a player within the rules of the servers. In all the cases i think they need to be informed about the rule they are breaking , and then if they persist have GOD kick their asses.
                                                                                                                         (http://cdn.meme.li/i/duo7o.jpg)
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: foxete91 on 20 October 2013, 21:21:17
I want to kick asses too... ='(
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: Jasecon on 21 October 2013, 13:40:02
Hi guys after seeing a few of these players myself I'm wondering why you guys don't just add scripts to your servers to kick players with {XG} tag that are not REAL MEMBERS, [make an exception list or something for the real members so there asses don't get kicked]. I know of several clans that do this for clan tags and also inappropriate names.
It would sure solve this problem you guys are facing.

Just a Suggestion. Cheers


Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: jorisdemiraj on 21 October 2013, 13:49:33
For every new member that joins or for every member who changes the name the script need to be re-updated in all servers. I think that will be really time consuming.
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: Jasecon on 21 October 2013, 15:21:37
Don't most of your members stick to their main name anyway? xD  So the main updates would be for new members yet these applications take time to get excepted so...
Set up like 3 or 4 admins with Core FTP LE or whatever you guys use, so they can edit the server to allow the new applicants to join the server after an admin has determined whether or not that player can join / tryout for the clan. I would think that the {XG} clan would believe the image of the clan is worth protecting by putting some time (weather it an hour or a day) in something that protects the image of the {XG} clan from Fakes.

#Somethingneedstobedone
Cheers.
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: {XG}BillClinton on 21 October 2013, 18:20:02
Hi guys after seeing a few of these players myself I'm wondering why you guys don't just add scripts to your servers to kick players with {XG} tag that are not REAL MEMBERS, [make an exception list or something for the real members so there asses don't get kicked]. I know of several clans that do this for clan tags and also inappropriate names.
It would sure solve this problem you guys are facing.

Just a Suggestion. Cheers

We already have something like this.. But because we have like 40 servers, we'd have to update it 40 times + update it 40+ times. It takes too long.
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: Jasecon on 21 October 2013, 23:34:16
um.. maybe we can find out his ip and ban him from {XG} Servers...
i think that's better.. because he can make people abuse and he can probably make people think bad about us.

Most problem players have spare internet modems so it only temporarily keeps them out of action.
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: {XG}BillClinton on 22 October 2013, 00:29:03
um.. maybe we can find out his ip and ban him from {XG} Servers...
i think that's better.. because he can make people abuse and he can probably make people think bad about us.

Most problem players have spare internet modems so it only temporarily keeps them out of action.

This technique wouldn't work. 99% of people have dynamic IP's, so regardless of their modem or whatever hardware they have, you still won't be able to ban their IP. I don't know why the internet doesn't ban by MAC address as everyone has a unique and banable address
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: csb26 on 22 October 2013, 10:20:13
um.. maybe we can find out his ip and ban him from {XG} Servers...
i think that's better.. because he can make people abuse and he can probably make people think bad about us.

Most problem players have spare internet modems so it only temporarily keeps them out of action.

This technique wouldn't work. 99% of people have dynamic IP's, so regardless of their modem or whatever hardware they have, you still won't be able to ban their IP. I don't know why the internet doesn't ban by MAC address as everyone has a unique and banable address
But i can get my MAC address unrecorded in case you want to ban me  ;D , but yea it would be great idea if we can ban a player using there mac addresses but i think we can't ::) especially in halo pc..... but i think we can ban the entire block that there isp provide...
like my ip address is 113.198.12.0 (which is dynamic) and you creepers ban me from your server , than i can join your server by my different ip but  my ip will not be change fully it will be somewhat like 113.198.13.1... and next time it will be like 113.198.12.2 

so i mean to say that the dynamic ip do not change in full so we can ban ip like 113.198.*    . *   
I'm not sure if this works in game but i am quiet sure that it works for the websites and forums
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: {XG}BillClinton on 22 October 2013, 12:45:22
um.. maybe we can find out his ip and ban him from {XG} Servers...
i think that's better.. because he can make people abuse and he can probably make people think bad about us.

Most problem players have spare internet modems so it only temporarily keeps them out of action.

This technique wouldn't work. 99% of people have dynamic IP's, so regardless of their modem or whatever hardware they have, you still won't be able to ban their IP. I don't know why the internet doesn't ban by MAC address as everyone has a unique and banable address
But i can get my MAC address unrecorded in case you want to ban me  ;D , but yea it would be great idea if we can ban a player using there mac addresses but i think we can't ::) especially in halo pc..... but i think we can ban the entire block that there isp provide...
like my ip address is 113.198.12.0 (which is dynamic) and you creepers ban me from your server , than i can join your server by my different ip but  my ip will not be change fully it will be somewhat like 113.198.13.1... and next time it will be like 113.198.12.2 

so i mean to say that the dynamic ip do not change in full so we can ban ip like 113.198.*    . *   
I'm not sure if this works in game but i am quiet sure that it works for the websites and forums

The problem with doing that would be that you're going to ban virtually a whole ISP's worth of ip's. Me and  fellow admin Jack have the same ISP so if you did this you'd probably knock at least one of us off of the servers :p MAC banning would be much, much better!
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: jorisdemiraj on 22 October 2013, 14:37:55
Also almost all the albanian has the same ip MAC ..witch doing that will result in banning an entire country. So that idea its not good.
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: foxete91 on 22 October 2013, 15:40:29
I dont know very much about server programming but i have a idea.

Doing a XG clan members list here , in the forum , which can be edited only by admins. The 40 servers check their official XG clan members list and update their info.
 
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: Gijs on 22 October 2013, 16:07:37
Doesn't work, we can however add every name and IP/cdkey but that would be a lot of work to add for each clan member who joins and leaves...
We already have such a system for the admins however, people who aren't me but have my name are automatically ipbanned :)

Anyway we are currently screening some new admins, and will add more to bills server later.
Once they passed the screening we will add more admins on our servers.

Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: csb26 on 22 October 2013, 16:22:19
Well MAC address can also be spoof, nvmind , now we got 5 options....
1. Find a way to ban a player with his/her mac address ( likely to be impossible for me).
2. Implement a time consuming method according to the idea that Jasecon gave.
3. Have more admins to take care of those fakers ..
4. Ban the entire ip block of that faker
5. Let it be... ( Damn this is a bad option )

Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: Gijs on 22 October 2013, 19:24:25
1. Find a way to ban a player with his/her mac address ( likely to be impossible for me).
2. Implement a time consuming method according to the idea that Jasecon gave.

3. Have more admins to take care of those fakers ..
4. Ban the entire ip block of that faker (would ban Bill and Jack)
5. Let it be... ( Damn this is a bad option )
6. Cut down on servers, so the admins can actually handle the amount of servers.

These are the only options we have right now.
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: csb26 on 22 October 2013, 20:37:18
1. Find a way to ban a player with his/her mac address ( likely to be impossible for me).
2. Implement a time consuming method according to the idea that Jasecon gave.

3. Have more admins to take care of those fakers ..
4. Ban the entire ip block of that faker (would ban Bill and Jack)
5. Let it be... ( Damn this is a bad option )
6. Cut down on servers, so the admins can actually handle the amount of servers.

These are the only options we have right now.
i don't agree with the 6th point until Gijs you are having any losses in maintaining 43 servers, cause if you cut down 10 or 20 servers than the remaining 20 30 servers will also be the same as the active admins which i think are BILLC ,WHITEFOX, TACOS( he was inactive coz of some problem) GIJS which are not sufficient to admin those servers,
so we got 2 option
LET IT BE
have more admins.....
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: {XG} ¬ GɵĐ ᴸᴱᴳᴱᴻᴰ on 24 October 2013, 07:44:02
3. Have more admins to take care of those fakers ..

Just add 1-2 Admins that are always online and here the solution

Member *CALL ADMIN*

- There is a Fake Member in {XG}Classic CTF !

Admin *HERO MOMENT*

- Lemme join and do my work

End of the story

Who likes my Idea?
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: {XG}Silver Basilisk on 24 October 2013, 09:38:40
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9fgefcSUO1rd7isao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: LOLOx on 24 October 2013, 16:15:47
3. Have more admins to take care of those fakers ..

Just add 1-2 Admins that are always online and here the solution

Member *CALL ADMIN*

- There is a Fake Member in {XG}Classic CTF !

Admin *HERO MOMENT*

- Lemme join and do my work

End of the story

Who likes my Idea?

I like it. I'm currently Field Marshall and i'm ALWAYS on the PC. now, i know i'm not supposed to ask for admin ranks but i believe i could help in situations like this one.
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: {XG}Silver Basilisk on 24 October 2013, 23:15:30
3. Have more admins to take care of those fakers ..

Just add 1-2 Admins that are always online and here the solution

Member *CALL ADMIN*

- There is a Fake Member in {XG}Classic CTF !

Admin *HERO MOMENT*

- Lemme join and do my work

End of the story

Who likes my Idea?

I like it. I'm currently Field Marshall and i'm ALWAYS on the PC. now, i know i'm not supposed to ask for admin ranks but i believe i could help in situations like this one.

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Yeah and i got a pc that allows halo may be slower but hay atleast im starting to play again -_-
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: 2PR0 on 27 October 2013, 19:36:21
For every new member that joins or for every member who changes the name the script need to be re-updated in all servers. I think that will be really time consuming.
he is right although if they do change they name just make it to were it notices them them there ip or hash key BOOM !
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: jorisdemiraj on 27 October 2013, 22:09:34
Some members have cracked versions (or non legit keys) of the game and most of us have an dynamic ip witch changes frequently so thats quite impossible ....or difficult to do.
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: LOLOx on 03 November 2013, 05:49:14
So are we going to do anything about this guy ZIPI?, he is still joining the servers the playing. I DONT WaNT HIM TO PLAY ON OUR SERVERS. Seriously, i get really pissed off only by seing his name on my screen.
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: {XG} ¬ GɵĐ ᴸᴱᴳᴱᴻᴰ on 03 November 2013, 08:57:24
So are we going to do anything about this guy ZIPI?, he is still joining the servers the playing. I DONT WaNT HIM TO PLAY ON OUR SERVERS. Seriously, i get really pissed off only by seing his name on my screen.

what about ASSASSIN ? He bots and still play on all our servers
Title: Re: Fakes, Fakes everywhere.
Post by: LOLOx on 03 November 2013, 22:30:42
Well him too, i mean, what a rude thing to do. if you wanna be XG all you gotta do is apply on the forums and that's it (well you've got to get the approval of the admins but still) and those assholes just stick our tag to their names and suddenly they're members? F*ck that. They make me sick. :D and as if that weren't enough they break the rules of the servers?